Saturday, March 27, 2010

Interesting "debate" on health care bill.

Rachel Goodman: McCain/Palin reunite =D

Person 1:
Sarah palin is the devil. She is vindictive and that frightens me about her. She cannot be trusted because she can and will use her power to bring down people she doesn't like. Which is NOT how govt is supposed to function
4 hours ago ·

Person 2:
They're pathetic.
4 hours ago ·

Rachel Goodman:
...last time I checked, the government is also not supposed to go against the constitution. But since Sunday we can kiss that good-bye. The unfortunate reality is that all politicians attempt to bring down people who oppose them... so that they are eligible for re-election and to get their bills signed/passed/what have you. Again, something else we just witnessed on Sunday.
about an hour ago ·

Person 1:
Not bring down opponents. Bring down people that have no bearing on an election. The troopergate scandal? And I would like to know why you think universal healthcare was a bad idea.
about an hour ago ·

Person 3:
There is nothing in this bill that goes against the constitution. You are going to be required to health insurance for the same reason you have to get car insurance. Its to protect the people who spend their lives putting money into health insurance from the people who have never paid a penny into it until they get sick. Republicans have been ... See Morecomplaining about the same thing in Welfare and Social Security for years, why now all of a sudden their opinions change because the idea is proposed by someone who isn't in the same party baffles me. Palin is a moron who has accomplished nothing but prove that shes a moron. McCain on the other hand has opinions that are as light as a feather against political popularity. I hope they run for president again, it would be an easy win for Obama.
about an hour ago ·

Rachel Goodman:
Okay, in terms of the troopergate scandal...there is honestly a gray line. On the one hand it seems like she fired the guy based on personal reasons but that can't be proven. Stephen Branchflower even stated that her personal reasons were not the main reason that the guy was fired.

Anyway, I have *many* reasons why I don't like the health care bill. I'll list a few so that I don't take up a lot of space lol. And I have actually read most of the bill.

1) By 2014... EVERYONE must purchase health care coverage or be forced to pay a 700 dollar fine per year. So, okay, let's say theoretically that I'm about to graduate college and I'm broke... in 4 years if I still don't have a good job, I'm forced to pay for health insurance. I'll most likely still be healthy and what if I don't feel I need health insurance? That's honestly my choice and the government just took that away from me. And on top of that, it doesn't sound very FREE to me.... See More

2) If you are a family of four and together you make 88,000/year, the government will subsidize you for SOME of the money needed to purchase a plan but not all of it.

3) In 2018, "cadillac" plans (i.e. people that can afford health care that runs around 20,000 per FAMILY per year [i.e. approx 5 grand per person]) are going to be charged a 40% excise tax. To give you an idea, most people in Unions have a cadillac plan. A good portions of Americans have this type of insurance. This means that if I somehow make it even to the MIDDLE CLASS on my own by 2018... I'm getting penalized if i decide that I want good health insurance.

4) Employers with 50 or more employees must provide health care coverage. Okay, this sounds great. Except each employee pays for the coverage each week -- no choice given. What if I need that 50 bucks per week that I'm given in my paycheck? This also means less money to hire people for the employers.

5) With a budget of 943 billion, the government will never raise enough tax money to pay for this.

6) This will put regular plans out of business. Why am I going to pay 6000 per year when I can just pay the fine for 700 and theoretically get "covered" anyway? This leaves government in complete control of health care... and the quality of our health care goes right down the toilet, left to socialism. Nobody will come to America anymore for the great health care that we're known for.

I *could* list more reasons... but I think I'll stop here.
about an hour ago ·


Person 1:
1) and if u get in a car accident I'm sure that your medical bills will be much more than the cost of the plans offered. Half of the problem now is people saying "oh I'm fine I won't get sick". You can't do it with car insurance. I've never had an accident but I still pay it every month.
2)a family of four suggests that there are 2 adults and 2 children, thus the adults are making an average of $44,000 a year. Well more than most people of yours or my own age. Meaning people making less can get more help than those making more. Appropriately.
3)"good health insurance"? This is the problem with republicans. They think name brand insurance is better than any other type of coverage. It is the big name brand companies that have dropped coverage, refused coverage, and charged ridiculous premiums to their customers. They can no longer refuse or cancel coverage, thank goodness. But the idea that "better coverage" is available to some wealthy elite is just plain silly.
4) this just makes no sense at all. What if you are ill and need an MRI? Can't afford 50 a week? How about $3,300 to pay for the MRI out of your own pocket. Sound more affordable? I didn't think so. Insurance is in place for "what if" situations. And they DO happen so this is why people NEED insurance. So the care gets paid for. What about hospitals that don't have enough money cause people get care and it never gets paid for, cause they can't afford it.
5) the government can't afford the bail outs on wall street either, but god forbid u suggest to a republican that you just let the big shots on wall street take their losses.... See More
6) people do NOT come here for our healthcare. On the contrary. September 11th victims have to travel to canada to be able to afford treatments for injuries they suffered DURING the attacks. Good ol American insurance companies refused to give them coverage. No government agency could help them. They have to LEAVE America to get their healthcare.
God bless america huh?
52 minutes ago ·


Person 2:
Or, you could do some research and get your facts straight.
50 minutes ago ·

Rachel Goodman:
@jeff:

Car insurance vs. health insurance:

DRIVING is a privilege, living is NOT. If I am driving, I *could* hurt someone else. That's why in PA you are NOT required to get collision; but liability IS required in case you hit someone else.... See More

If I get cancer, I am not going to get anyone else sick. Therefore, I am responsible for myself.

With regards to your opinion on McCain and Palin, Jeff, I respectfully disagree.
49 minutes ago ·

Person 2:
Palin is a disgrace to educated women. i could go on and on, but don't haue the time right now. do some real research and stop looking for "facts" and opinion based articles the only reinforce your views. to truly understand an issue, you need to look at it from multiple pespectives with an open mind. until you do so, you'll only sound ignorant. you made the claim that it was unconstitutional. really? come on now. you can do better than that.
40 minutes ago ·

Person 1:
I just wish more republicans were fully informed. They are not uneducated, but miseducated. And the irony of the correlation between wealth and the republican party and its followers is just a reminder to you that they operate with different intentions than democrats
39 minutes ago ·


Rachel Goodman:
Interesting, already you two have resorted to throwing insults at the Republican party.

Anyway, I can say nothing more other than the facts that I have presented... don't believe me? Read the bill. It states everything that I mentioned above.
25 minutes ago ·

Rachel Goodman
@Julio and Kathryn:

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

You two should really consider reading this.... See More
19 minutes ago ·


Person 1:
You read it and think it goes against the constitution.
I have read parts of it. I will read the rest. But the republicans are the only ones against it. I have not met one person who is NOT republican that is against universal healthcare. Let me guess. You refuse to believe anything put in a Michael Moore movie cause its "biased" right? Consider ... See Morethat it is also all factual. Republicans just refuse to accept change unless it stands to directly benefit them. For example the bail outs. Why is there more resistance to healthcare than there was to the bail outs? Money more important than health to some people? Republicans make their intentions obvious, but are the only ones too ignorant to see it
13 minutes ago ·

Rachel Goodman:
Independents are 70/30 against universal health care. They are 60/40 against this bill. How do you explain Scott Brown winning in Massachusetts if people are happy with the Democrats? If universal health care was actually free and supported a capitalist economy, I would be completely for it. If you think that health care is expensive now, wait to ... See Moreyou see what it costs when it's "free."

Michael Moore is insane. I have no further comments on him, other than he's a convinced communist. Of course, I'm sure you believe better red than dead. And I believe better dead than red.

Monday, January 25, 2010

Entry One - Scott Brown wins Senate Seat in Massachusetts

I've been meaning to start up a political blog and now a moment has presented itself. January 20th 2010 Republican Scott Brown defeated Martha Coakley, gaining a Senate seat in Massachusetts. Brown will fight against the very thing that former seat-holder Ted Kennedy created: universal health care -- the "care" that could turn open heart surgery into a 6 month waiting process.

Is Brown a sign that America has finally learned its lesson against Obamunism?

Or will his win move America in a direction that is not so focused on party lines? As he puts it: “I’m a different kind of Republican. I’ve always just wanted to go out and solve the problem, regardless of party.”

And as I have more school work to do, more on the subject matter in the next week to come.